rameumptom Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 I personally do not have a problem with tax increases or losing a few of my benefits for the good of the country. I do have a problem with the few getting perks or subsidies, while others must compete without such benefit. Everyone wants smaller government, except for their own entitlements. That is why Social Security and Medicare cannot be fixed, no one wants to sacrifice what they have for the betterment of the nation. FDR stated the only thing to fear is fear itself, then rationed everything on Americans as their patriotic duty to the War. JFK said, "ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country." After 9/11, GWB told us to go out and shop. Clearly, our views are very different now than they were 50+ years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
annewandering Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 You may well be right about medicare. It is scary to give up a sure thing for what might end up being nothing. We know the foibles of medicare but trying out a new program is scary when your health depends on it working properly. It might be that we need to change it for the people not on it yet and leave the ones on it alone unless they change voluntarily. Until greed is no longer a factor we are never going to have the best or maybe even a good plan for healthcare. (or anything else) Lobbyists and self interest are wrecking our country. We wouldn't even have to worry about National Health Care if people cared about other people. Since it is a fact of life we do have to deal with it and try to work around it. So what is pelousie's husbands job? Please do not tell me insurance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Pelosi's husband is a real estate tycoon and the owner of the California Redwoods professional football team. They also own a vineyard. I've never heard of him owning or having anything to do with healthcare but I could be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threepercent Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 No true Latter-day Saint and no true American can be a socialist or a communist or support programs leading in that direction. These evil philosophies are incompatible with Mormonism, the true gospel of Jesus Christ. In the war in heaven the devil advocated absolute eternal security at the sacrifice of our freedom. Although there is nothing more desirable to a Latter-day Saint than eternal security in God’s presence, and although God knew, as did we, that some of us would not achieve this security if we were allowed our freedom–yet the very God of heaven, who has more mercy than us all, still decreed no guaranteed security except by a man’s own freedom of choice and individual initiative. Today the devil as a wolf in a supposedly new suit of sheep’s clothing is enticing some men, both in and out of the Church, to parrot his line by advocating planned government guaranteed security programs at the expense of our liberties. Latter-day Saints should be reminded how and why they voted as they did in heaven. If some have decided to change their vote they should repent–throw their support on the side of freedom–and cease promoting this subversion. Ezra Taft Benson General Conference, October 1961 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john doe Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 As this thread has strayed far from the OP it has been deemed to have run its course. Therefor I am closing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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