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#1 JThimm88

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 06:13 PM

Not to start a debate or anything, but I do have a question for church members out there. I used to drink coffee before joining the church because I loved the taste of it. Up until now, I didn't know that there was such a thing as a "coffee substitute," which literally contains no coffee and no caffeine. If I drank this, I don't believe I'd be breaking the Word of Wisdom, as I've said before, no coffee beans -- think rye, barley, and chicory! But what do you think? And please refrain from responses such as, "Well, if you're questioning whether or not it'd be breaking the Word of Wisdom, then you probably have your answer," because it's not really that sort of question. I want to know if members would somehow be offended if I drank something that contains the word "coffee," in it ... I know people who get offended because converts drink NON-ALCOHOLIC "beer" because they like the taste, when there isn't any alcohol in it and the only real offense is that the word "beer" is stamped on the label. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - One of the brands I saw at Broulims today was called "Pero." The website states this about their product: "Looking for a natural alternative to caffeinated coffee or tea? Your search is over. PERO is a 100% natural beverage with a coffee-like taste. It’s 100% naturally caffeine free and blended from select all natural ingredients --- malted barley, barley, chicory and rye. And because PERO contains no stimulants it will not elevate heart rate or blood pressure, cause sleeplessness or create any adverse physical ailments typically associated with caffeine consumption. Plus, the low acidity of this natural beverage makes it easy to enjoy morning, noon or night without fear of stomach upset. PERO can be mixed with your favorite ingredients to create your own hot drink specialties to relax and enjoy. So, take a break -- and make PERO the beverage of choice for you and your family."

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 06:43 PM

Postum used to be something we drank at my house growing up. (raised LDS). It was a roasted grain drink. I can't find it anymore. It wasn't considered breaking the WoW. I hope that helps.

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:02 PM

Caffeine is not found anywhere in the Word of Wisdom.
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Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:08 PM

When I was inactive I drank coffee, mostly just a cup in the morning to give me a little kick and I liked the taste. Now, I drink pero occasionally. I think i have had the same can of it for over a year, but when im craving coffee which is rare at this point, I will have some. To my knowledge it is not breaking the word of wisdom as there is no coffee in it.

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:24 PM

Caffeine is not found anywhere in the Word of Wisdom.


I know there is no mention of caffeine in the Word of Wisdom; however, I threw that out there because some people seem to be fanatical and won't even drink a sip of soda because of the fact they think the reason behind the revelation for no coffee was due to the caffeine versus the health consequences due to the bean itself. Heck, I drink a soda every now and then. :)

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:36 PM

Pero and Postum are two WoW friendly coffee replacements. I rather like Postum; Pero not so much. I'd rather have a cup of Jasmine Flower herbal tea any day of the week.
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Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:46 PM

Postum was discontinued a couple of years ago. No longer available. Ben Raines
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#8 MisterT

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 07:48 PM

Man, that stinks! (glad I have my two case stockpile)
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#9 volgadon

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 08:16 PM

My fiancee, a convert, drinks chicory drinks. Absolutely nothing against the WoW in drinking coffee substitutes.

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Posted 20 May 2010 - 08:21 PM

Man, that stinks! (glad I have my two case stockpile)


will you share? :D

#11 MisterT

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:05 AM

Nope; since its discontinued I have to make my 24 bottles last the next 40 years...
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Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:08 AM

Nope; since its discontinued I have to make my 24 bottles last the next 40 years...


I remember how sad I was when I ate the last Hamburger Helper box I brought back from Canada and I can buy that when I go back to Canada.

I can't imagine having a glorious box of something I loved and having to make it last the rest of my life.

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Posted 21 May 2010 - 05:32 AM

Well, I've had the two cases in my food storage for the last 4 or 5 years, and I've so far resisted the urge to open them; I doubt I'll get all that antsy anytime in the near future. I really don't drink hot drinks, except for a couple of times a year I'll have some Jasmine Flower or Ancient Jade Lilly tea. I just don't get into hot beverages all that much. Once or twice in the winter, generally after freezing my butt off all day in the snow hunting, I'll have some hot chicken broth or hot chocolate, but that's just once or twice a year. I'd rather have a glass of water or diet pop instead; I guess that comes from having lived in a desert most of my life where everything is hot all the time and a cold beverage is always welcome. I imagine I'd feel differently were I raised in the Northwoods.
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Posted 21 May 2010 - 12:16 PM

OKAY, wow...yes I've tasted Postum. It was the equivalent of a cheap, off-tasting instant coffee. Think Sanka--but not quite as good. And yet, you fanatics are now paying $50-$80 for one "vintage jar" of the stuff over at Ebay. IMHOO (in my humble outsider opinion) substitutes are okay...if Splenda or Equal are okay as sugar substitutes, why not wood grain beverages for coffee/tea?

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Posted 27 June 2010 - 06:57 PM

I know people who get offended because converts drink NON-ALCOHOLIC "beer" because they like the taste, when there isn't any alcohol in it and the only real offense is that the word "beer" is stamped on the label.


That is akin to decaffinated coffee. If a word offends thee then change the word. You can now drink Amber Fizz and (sorry Chaplain) Sanka beverage.
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Posted 29 June 2010 - 06:35 AM

That is akin to decaffinated coffee. If a word offends thee then change the word. You can now drink Amber Fizz and (sorry Chaplain) Sanka beverage.

What is amber fizz?

#17 Over43

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 01:11 PM

I have seen Postum at the store lately, and bought some within the last year? Maybe they're just selling off what's left?
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Posted 06 August 2010 - 02:04 PM

Maybe you better buy the lot!

When I'd decided to get baptized, I found this site: Adagio Teas You can really go to town with teas that have nothing to do with black or green teas. Sour apple and vanilla are my favorites. The lemon grass is surprisingly good (and worth the price) considering it looks exactly like lawn cuttings. I got the ingenuetea pot and go for it.

Edited by UrbanFool, 06 August 2010 - 05:21 PM.


#19 Over43

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 03:20 PM

I did some research, and must apologize, it has been discontinued. $50-$80 on Ebay, that is an addiction. What's the other "coffee replacement" drink out there?

Edited by Over43, 06 August 2010 - 03:23 PM.

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#20 Dravin

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Posted 06 August 2010 - 05:19 PM

Chicory is available from a variety of sources, and even available in bulk. If you wanted something that is a roasted grain variety wikipedia lists a few: Roasted grain beverage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Though I note that they aren't all available in the US, take Caro for instance, maybe you can set up a pipeline with one of the European posters. :)

Honestly a little poking around the 'net brings up enough options to make your head spin. The problem, I think, is not finding a substitute, but finding a substitute you like. Happy taste testing. :eek:
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