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#1 taurus22122

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:15 PM

The internet has been called the biggest outlet for information and exchange of ideas since the advent of public libraries.
Has the availability and widespread usage affected the LDS in any noticeable shape or form?

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 06:56 PM

The internet helped the Church a lot and as you know, we make great use of it and other forms of technology but I sense that's not the kind of answer you was looking for. ;) I always say, if a member is interested in searching things we are not taught on Sundays, they will find and research.

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 07:42 PM

yes, in my example, if the net wasn't here I'd have never talked to those missionaries and read about the religion and considered it a spiritual path

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:17 PM

News from The Associated Press

No more door to door? :huh:

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:39 PM

News from The Associated Press

No more door to door? :huh:


I think they are onto something, most everyone has a computer, if not more (I myself own 3) and a cellphone of some sort with the internet... I'll let anyone know if any missionaries message my doll's account on facebook:lol: (I don't have one for myself)
I mean though people are far meaner online... it doesn't have the same sting as someone berating you to your face.
Even in my atheist days, I wasn't rude to them, I even read what they gave me.

Edited by Lakumi, 05 July 2013 - 08:43 PM.


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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:45 PM

You personally don't have a facebook account but your dolls do?

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 08:59 PM

You personally don't have a facebook account but your dolls do?


only one does, yes (its not as weird as it sounds... several of my friends in the ball jointed doll hobby do that, though its less of a fake profile as a page for their dolls, commissions and art)
with Clover its much more comedic, where I play the part... can't give it to any women who ask for it, but it keeps snoopy bosses out of my business:lol:

though to be fair, the BJD hobby in and of itself is pretty strange

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:19 PM

only one does, yes (its not as weird as it sounds... several of my friends in the ball jointed doll hobby do that, though its less of a fake profile as a page for their dolls, commissions and art)
with Clover its much more comedic, where I play the part... can't give it to any women who ask for it, but it keeps snoopy bosses out of my business:lol:

though to be fair, the BJD hobby in and of itself is pretty strange


Probably doesn't sound weird to you and those that are involved in these but I will be honest...it sounds terribly weird to me. :)

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:24 PM

Probably doesn't sound weird to you and those that are involved in these but I will be honest...it sounds terribly weird to me. :)


More than weird...it sounds downright creepy.
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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:30 PM

More than weird...it sounds downright creepy.


that's little far, I fully admit I am a weird person, and have weird friends. I'm happy with what I do, for the most part. It does make the whole friendship and girlfriend thing hard but... I'd rather be alone and enjoy what I love, then have to be someone else to be with people I don't like- kind of off topic I know

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Posted 05 July 2013 - 09:51 PM

News from The Associated Press

No more door to door? :huh:


Well, there's still a lot to be said for real "face time," but it's a lot more efficient to use the 'net to make basic contacts and answer quick questions. It can eliminate a lot of "windshield time" (or bike saddle, or shoeleather express, or whatever) when they're just checking in trying to set appointments too.

It can also be more convenient for the recipient; our local missionaries know that my schedule can be weird, but a text message will get to me as soon as I wake up, get out of the shower, get back into town, etc. and will almost always generate a response right then, while a voicemail will have to wait until I have time and quiet to listen to it. (My car has no A/C, and a fairly loud exhaust; listening to a voicemail at highway speed means rolling up the windows and sweating long enough to hear it. If it ain't from somebody who might be letting me know about an emergency with my kids, it can wait.)

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 06:28 AM

that's little far, I fully admit I am a weird person, and have weird friends. I'm happy with what I do, for the most part. It does make the whole friendship and girlfriend thing hard but... I'd rather be alone and enjoy what I love, then have to be someone else to be with people I don't like- kind of off topic I know


It's not "far" at all -- it sounds creepy to me. It's also creepy that you'd rather have dolls than human companionship, not to mention more than a little bit sad.

Edited by Wingnut, 06 July 2013 - 06:51 AM.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 07:10 AM

Wingnut - Read and learn. It might seem a little less creepy if you knew a little more about the phenomenon.

To the point of the thread, the internet introduced the gospel to a Canadian Athiest Brony. Instead of being creeped out when he shows up, maybe we could be a little, I dunno, friendly?

Edited by Loudmouth_Mormon, 06 July 2013 - 07:21 AM.

If I were rich, I'd have the time that I lack, to sit in the synagogue and pray.
And maybe have a seat by the Eastern wall.
And I'd discuss the holy books with the learned men, several hours every day.
That would be the sweetest thing of all.

Ohhh....
If I were a rich man...

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 10:02 AM

It's not "far" at all -- it sounds creepy to me. It's also creepy that you'd rather have dolls than human companionship, not to mention more than a little bit sad.


I think this is a prime example why I don't generally like a lot of other people. I don't mind jokes, its a strange hobby, but to insult me like that... but it proves that in my experiences, people often are only nice when they think you fit their mould, but since my life didn't go swimmingly, I am now the freak, you think I enjoy all this?

I have never had a good relationship with anyone, and now at 24, I just lost all desire to try, though to be honest, I don't think you deserved even that little explanation.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 11:08 AM

It's not "far" at all -- it sounds creepy to me. It's also creepy that you'd rather have dolls than human companionship, not to mention more than a little bit sad.


What's more than sad is insulting another human being without provocation of any sort.
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Posted 06 July 2013 - 12:44 PM

The internet has been called the biggest outlet for information and exchange of ideas since the advent of public libraries.
Has the availability and widespread usage affected the LDS in any noticeable shape or form?


I think so. Not only with Missionaries now spending some of their Morning time chatting with people that are interested. I think we see more and more data at our fingertips.

--- I was back from my Mission about 6 months, I was till only working part time, and it was summer so I had time on my hands (Should have been looking for a wife more). So back then chat rooms were really big. I can't even remember how but I found this young Lady on line, we started to chat using ICQ. (the good old days). after about 4-6 months chatting The gospel came up more and more, and I sent her stuff. I ended up teaching/Typing pretty much all the discussions. After a year of her studying, she started to visit with the Missionaries. I flew out to KY to give her the Holy Ghost. With how small the ward was out there, they ended up just losing track of her.


--- I'm able to download James E Talmage onto a tablet and read his books that way. Tablet and cell phones are nice but with out the internet they would really be what they are.

--- That leads me to use the Church's Apps on my tablet. I don't take my physical scriptures to church anymore. There are some down sides. But being able to highlight scriptures, and make "notes", and even do scripture links that are all available in the cloud. That will be there forever, or until the second coming. Also Manuals and the ward directory is out there.

--- I think we can see one thing Pres. Monson is pushing is using the internet.



The down side


---People need more information to fill the pipe line. What I mean there are now a billion blogs out there. People need stuff to write about to keep people coming back, so people just copy other blog to "report" on stuff. The bad this is a lot of it is just supposition, or their own ideas. Some of this is needed, and is useful, but when people start taking ideas and then start reporting it as fact is gets crazy.

So the church is out there more, but now you have to correct false data more often. But I do believe the Mormon church has finally become a main stream religion.

---Now people have to report on something that has gone viral. Probably 5 years ago you wouldn't hear about a lot of small things. But now because something goes viral, it makes that little thing big news. Even more it seems like people feel like they have to report on the viral item, even if they are two days late to the party.

Its funny when a news radio station reports on something because it seems like they have to, or they aren't getting it right.

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:01 PM

The internet helped the Church a lot and as you know, we make great use of it and other forms of technology but I sense that's not the kind of answer you was looking for. ;) I always say, if a member is interested in searching things we are not taught on Sundays, they will find and research.


Heeey Suzie ;)
And what kind of answer do you think I was looking for?
If you know I want it, why not just give it? ;) ;) :)

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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:05 PM

--- I'm able to download James E Talmage onto a tablet


I bet he'd really appreciate it if you'd let him back out.

--- That leads me to use the Church's Apps on my tablet. I don't take my physical scriptures to church anymore. There are some down sides. But being able to highlight scriptures, and make "notes", and even do scripture links that are all available in the cloud. That will be there forever, or until the second coming. Also Manuals and the ward directory is out there.


One failing point here; most reading apps aren't well designed for cross referencing; switching documents is much slower than having 2-3 books laid out in front of you, or holding an alternate place in a book with your finger. Hyperlinks help a lot, but getting back isn't always as easy, and not every cross reference you might want is hyperlinked. I get around this by having my rooted Nook as the primary reading device, and cross referencing on my Android phone.

---People need more information to fill the pipe line. What I mean there are now a billion blogs out there. People need stuff to write about to keep people coming back, so people just copy other blog to "report" on stuff.


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:14 PM

Heeey Suzie ;)
And what kind of answer do you think I was looking for?
If you know I want it, why not just give it? ;) ;) :)


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Posted 06 July 2013 - 02:17 PM

no I don't have multiple accounts




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