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#21 Blackmarch

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 07:11 AM

I was baptized on 8/11/2012 and am about to finish my first year as a convert. I have heard many things about the Bishopric normally wants to wait a year before taking a new convert out of Gospel Principles and Relief Society/Priesthood meetings. I have been in Gospel Doctrine for about 6 months now and am closing in on that year mark. I have grown discouraged due to other converts getting callings after 9 months and our recent converts receiving their first calling within a month of being "dunked". I have spoken with senior missionaries (before they left for home) and my Bishop. Unfortunately, there still has been no answer.


My questions are:

What was your first calling in the church?
How long were you a convert or member before being asked to serve?
What calling have you enjoyed the most?


I was called as a deacon at 12. 4 years membership prior. The calling I enjoyed the most so far was my missionary calling at 19. If your wanting a calling keep letting your home teachers know and talk to the bishop every now and again about it. (bishops are pretty busy handling the ward... so one or two discussions might get moved to the backburner.)

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:17 AM

I was baptized on 8/11/2012 and am about to finish my first year as a convert. I have heard many things about the Bishopric normally wants to wait a year before taking a new convert out of Gospel Principles and Relief Society/Priesthood meetings. I have been in Gospel Doctrine for about 6 months now and am closing in on that year mark. I have grown discouraged due to other converts getting callings after 9 months and our recent converts receiving their first calling within a month of being "dunked". I have spoken with senior missionaries (before they left for home) and my Bishop. Unfortunately, there still has been no answer.


My questions are:

What was your first calling in the church?
How long were you a convert or member before being asked to serve?
What calling have you enjoyed the most?



That sounds about right. I've been in the church just over a year. I've not had any callings either. nor has anyone else I know who is a new member. In fact, no one in our ward including myself that has been with the church for less than 18 months even holds the priesthood. Then again, our ward has very few new members almost everone has been a life long member and those who haven't have been members well over ten years! Like you, at first this troubled me but I have since decided I'm not that bothered about holding the priesthood as if I did I have been told I would have to start off a deacon and end up being told what to do by a bunch of 12 year olds and sorry but no way I'm I going to play that game.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 11:39 AM

I would recommend contacting your Mission President. This isn't the way it's supposed to be.

Typically, new adult male converts are interviewed quickly after baptism and confirmation to receive the Aaronic Priesthood and ordained to the office of a Priest. They meet with the Elder's Quorum, not with the 16-17 year olds.

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I have said before, and I repeat it, that every new convert needs three things:

  • A friend in the Church to whom he can constantly turn, who will walk beside him, who will answer his questions, who will understand his problems.
  • An assignment. Activity is the genius of this Church. It is the process by which we grow. Faith and love for the Lord are like the muscle of my arm. If I use them, they grow stronger. If I put them in a sling, they become weaker. Every convert deserves a responsibility. The bishop may feel that he is not qualified for responsibility. Take a chance on him. Think of the risk the Lord took when He called you.
    Of course the new convert will not know everything. He likely will make some mistakes. So what? We all make mistakes. The important thing is the growth that will come of activity.
    As a part of this process of giving responsibility, it is proper and very important that the new convert, if he be a man, is ordained to the Aaronic Priesthood. Then before too many months, he may be ordained to the Melchizedek Priesthood. He will have the fellowship of the elders quorum. He will become one of a vast body of priesthood throughout the world, men of integrity and faith who love the Lord and seek to move forward His work.
  • Every convert must be “nourished by the good word of God” (Moro. 6:4). It is imperative that he or she become affiliated with a priesthood quorum or the Relief Society, the Young Women, the Young Men, the Sunday School, or the Primary. He or she must be encouraged to come to sacrament meeting to partake of the sacrament, to renew the covenants made at the time of baptism.
    Not long ago, I listened to a man and woman who spoke in my home ward. This man had served in many capacities in the Church, including that of bishop. Their most recent assignment was to fellowship a single mother and her children. He stated that it was the most joyful of all his Church experiences.
    This young woman was full of questions. She was filled with fear and anxiety. She did not wish to make a mistake, to say anything that was out of line that might embarrass her or cause others to laugh. Patiently this man and his wife brought the family to church, sat with them, put a shield around them, as it were, against anything that might happen to embarrass them. They spent one evening a week with them at their home, teaching them further concerning the gospel and answering their many questions. They led that little family along as a shepherd leads his sheep. Eventually, circumstances dictated that they move to another city. “But,” he stated, “we still correspond with that woman. We feel a great appreciation for her. She is now firmly grounded in the Church, and we have no fear concerning her. What a joy it has been to work with her.”


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#24 Mikedavis

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 12:40 PM

I would recommend contacting your Mission President. This isn't the way it's supposed to be.

Typically, new adult male converts are interviewed quickly after baptism and confirmation to receive the Aaronic Priesthood and ordained to the office of a Priest. They meet with the Elder's Quorum, not with the 16-17 year olds.

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That's interesting. I did ask why I would have to become a deacon and was told "everyone starts off that way" As for it taking over a year before receiving the Aaronic priesthood I was told "it verys from ward to ward but a year was about average for new members". That said I do know one guy who recived it only ten months after being confirmed so I know exceptions can be made. That said, even he has had to become a deacon and now tells me he's had enough and plans to leave. With that in mind I'm happy to just attend church and leave all this pomp and hierarchical claptrap to others :)

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:20 PM

That's interesting. I did ask why I would have to become a deacon and was told "everyone starts off that way" As for it taking over a year before receiving the Aaronic priesthood I was told "it verys from ward to ward but a year was about average for new members". That said I do know one guy who recived it only ten months after being confirmed so I know exceptions can be made. That said, even he has had to become a deacon and now tells me he's had enough and plans to leave. With that in mind I'm happy to just attend church and leave all this pomp and hierarchical claptrap to others :)


I know this was back in the dark ages (1981!) but I got the priesthood almost right away - within a month or so, and I was ordained a priest.

I really came here to recommend a site for you, Mike. It's Stay LDS / Mormon | New Ways to Stay Connected. I recently discovered it, and I like it. The people there are very receptive and it is most definately NOT anti-Mormon.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:22 PM

That's interesting. I did ask why I would have to become a deacon and was told "everyone starts off that way" As for it taking over a year before receiving the Aaronic priesthood I was told "it verys from ward to ward but a year was about average for new members". That said I do know one guy who recived it only ten months after being confirmed so I know exceptions can be made. That said, even he has had to become a deacon and now tells me he's had enough and plans to leave. With that in mind I'm happy to just attend church and leave all this pomp and hierarchical claptrap to others :)


The priesthood is "pomp and hierarchical claptrap"??

Wow.

I don't even know how to respond to that.

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 01:51 PM

That sounds about right. I've been in the church just over a year. I've not had any callings either. nor has anyone else I know who is a new member. In fact, no one in our ward including myself that has been with the church for less than 18 months even holds the priesthood. Then again, our ward has very few new members almost everone has been a life long member and those who haven't have been members well over ten years! Like you, at first this troubled me but I have since decided I'm not that bothered about holding the priesthood as if I did I have been told I would have to start off a deacon and end up being told what to do by a bunch of 12 year olds and sorry but no way I'm I going to play that game.


Your scenario definitely is not the norm. Once baptized one should get the priesthood as fast as they are ready for it.

As far as taking orders from 12 year olds, it doesn’t change if you are a Teacher, a Priest, Elder or High Priest. The 12 year old over the deacons hold "keys" and may ask for help and has authority in certain areas. So, we all do it. :)

#28 Mikedavis

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 02:20 PM

Bad wording on my part. The priesthood is good. It's the pomp and hierarchical structure I was referring to. For example, I'm in my late 30's and run a company employing over 700 people yet I'm expected to reffer to someone young enough to be my child as "elder". If and when, I am ever ordained into the priesthood it will be as a decon. I am also (as are all new members in our ward) constantly reminded by other members how they were "born into the church and have served missions". It stuff like that I consider to be "pomp and claptrap" One thing I will say. For the past few weeks I have been working north of the border and as such attended a different Chappell. Wow what a difference. Almost half the members here are new converts and those that were born into the church are so incredibly friendly. The kicker is I return home next week :(

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 03:45 PM

Bad wording on my part. The priesthood is good. It's the pomp and hierarchical structure I was referring to. For example, I'm in my late 30's and run a company employing over 700 people yet I'm expected to reffer to someone young enough to be my child as "elder". If and when, I am ever ordained into the priesthood it will be as a decon. I am also (as are all new members in our ward) constantly reminded by other members how they were "born into the church and have served missions". It stuff like that I consider to be "pomp and claptrap"

One thing I will say. For the past few weeks I have been working north of the border and as such attended a different Chappell. Wow what a difference. Almost half the members here are new converts and those that were born into the church are so incredibly friendly. The kicker is I return home next week :(


You know, I think I will just trust that Heavenly Father knows what he's doing when it comes to how the church is organized.

Perhaps a little humility and better understanding of how the priesthood is organized is in order. If everyone of a certain age got their undies in a bunch over the title of Elder, we'd have a problem. There are millions of us that are older than many of those who are referred to with the title of Elder (missionaries, anyone?). It never ocurred to me to get all offended at calling the young missionaries who taught me the lessons as Elder. After all, that IS the office they hold in the priesthood.

There sure is a lot about the church you complain about. Is there anything you do like? Anything that is up to your standards?

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 04:56 PM

Leah - To what high standards are you referring to? You know Leah, I was just looking at the way in which you have replied to other members questions and can't help but notice a certain similarity, which is sad really because I'm sure deep down your really a very nice person. Anyway, have a good week :)

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 05:00 PM

I know this was back in the dark ages (1981!) but I got the priesthood almost right away - within a month or so, and I was ordained a priest.

I really came here to recommend a site for you, Mike. It's Stay LDS / Mormon | New Ways to Stay Connected. I recently discovered it, and I like it. The people there are very receptive and it is most definately NOT anti-Mormon.


Thanks! This site is amazing. I wish I had come across twelve months ago. Thanks again :)

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 08:26 PM

Thanks! This site is amazing. I wish I had come across twelve months ago. Thanks again :)


I wish I had discovered it long ago, too. It needs to be moved closer to the top of Google searches!

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 02:09 AM

I was asked by the RSP if I could ring certain sisters to get their VT reports which I was only too happy to do. I think it was maybe 3 months after being baptized. I cant remember. Not long after that I was called as the Visiting Teacher Board member, now called The Visiting Teacher Leader. I think. leader or co- ordinator - neither here nor there. The Lord calls and the Lord releases :D put the desires of your heart to the Lord. The feild is white :D.....

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 02:12 AM

I was asked by the RSP if I could ring certain sisters to get their VT reports which I was only too happy to do. I think it was maybe 3 months after being baptized. I cant remember. Not long after that I was called as the Visiting Teacher Board member, now called The Visiting Teacher Leader. I think. leader or co- ordinator - neither here nor there. The Lord calls and the Lord releases :D put the desires of your heart to the Lord. The feild is white :D.....


Just to clarify for those that are investigating and unfamiliar with LDS acronyms: RSP is for Relief Society President.

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Posted 01 September 2013 - 07:38 PM

I forgot what callings I have had in the past.....;)
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Posted 02 September 2013 - 01:44 PM

I was baptized over 40 years ago but left the church. I came back to the church about 3 1/2 years ago. I was given a calling in less than a month of coming back. That calling was Primary teacher of 6 going on 7 year old children. My husband and I travel for his work, so we left for over a year and I was released from my calling. We came back home about 7 months ago and I haven't been called yet. My husband said that the Lord knows when the time is right and He will reveal to the Bishopric that information. I was just thinking of going in to talk with the Bishop yesterday before Sacrament, but didn't have time. Low and behold I was stopped before leaving Church by the Ward Clerk and asked if I could meet with the Bishop on Tuesday afternoon. I think it will be about a new calling... YES! I will let you know what it is after I see him. I don't even want to guess at it.... ;)

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:20 AM

I was baptized on 8/11/2012 and am about to finish my first year as a convert. I have heard many things about the Bishopric normally wants to wait a year before taking a new convert out of Gospel Principles and Relief Society/Priesthood meetings. I have been in Gospel Doctrine for about 6 months now and am closing in on that year mark. I have grown discouraged due to other converts getting callings after 9 months and our recent converts receiving their first calling within a month of being "dunked". I have spoken with senior missionaries (before they left for home) and my Bishop. Unfortunately, there still has been no answer.


My questions are:

What was your first calling in the church?
How long were you a convert or member before being asked to serve?
What calling have you enjoyed the most?


it is okay to ask for a calling if you want one. :)

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 10:27 AM

it is okay to ask for a calling if you want one. :)

I just went through this myself. As I stated in my earlier post I was waiting on the Lord for the Bishopric to give me a calling after we returned from being away working for over a year.

So... I waited. Finally Tuesday night I got my new calling as Relief Society Teacher. I told the Bishop that I had been waiting and he asked me way I didn't just come and let him know that I didn't have a calling since we returned.

I told him my husband and I talked about it and we thought we should wait on the Lord. He said that was okay too... but, that it would have been completely fine to let him know. He said he has so many things on his plate that it's easy to over look someone that needs a calling.

So YES, it is completely fine to let the Bishop know you are wanting to do more in the Church and would love a calling. Just be prepared to receive what the Lord has to offer you. We don't always get what we think we should.

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Posted 11 September 2013 - 06:43 PM

If you can't find the time to go see him hen just send him a email.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:48 AM

Reading these posts is kind of depressing me a little. I've been a member for 16 years (1997) and have never had a calling.




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