carlimac Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I just saw this little snippet. http://www.sltrib.com/lifestyle/faith/2117286-155/lds-church-asking-mormons-for-input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Being able to give input on garments isn't new. When I commente to one of the workers at the distribution center that I wished Carinessa was available in petite (I am only five feet tall), she explained to me why they weren't made in petite, but also gave me a form I could fill out with my feedback that would be sent to wherever in the church such things get sent.And as most people know, custom garments are available.I suspect some people (as it seems one of the women quoted did) will misinterpret this as some sort of sign that the church is going to re-design garments to accommodate more revealing clothes. Or get rid of the garment altogether.I've never understood the whining about garments. I have two different medical conditions that can make garment wearing challenging (not to mention my short stature) but I haven't had any issues. I joined the church in 2011 and was endowed a year later. At this point I can't imagine not wearing garments. carlimac, Backroads, Just_A_Guy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 This article is also from the Salt Lake Trib which always makes me suspect the reason or agenda behind some of the articles regarding the Church. Palerider, Daybreak79 and Backroads 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Ah. The long-rumored Speedo® g's are on their way. And we read it in the SLTrib, so we know we can trust it. pam, Backroads and EarlJibbs 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlimac Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 This article is also from the Salt Lake Trib which always makes me suspect the reason or agenda behind some of the articles regarding the Church. I wondered about that. Sorry for posting in "official" church news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palerider Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 This article is also from the Salt Lake Trib which always makes me suspect the reason or agenda behind some of the articles regarding the Church.I was concerned a little myself when I noticed the tribune was behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I get custom garments also. I send measurements and DC sends me garments. It expires every... I think it's 3 years... So you have to send measurements again to get more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I suspect some people (as it seems one of the women quoted did) will misinterpret this as some sort of sign that the church is going to re-design garments to accommodate more revealing clothes. Or get rid of the garment altogether. Quick, let's rework the rumors; get it out there that the men's garments will change to a Borat-style mankini, and the women's will be sewn together at the knees to make wearing pants outright impossible. mordorbund, carlimac and CatholicLady 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Quick, let's rework the rumors; get it out there that the men's garments will change to a Borat-style mankini, and the women's will be sewn together at the knees to make wearing pants outright impossible. Oh yeah. And tell them the women's bottoms are going to need a key to take off... and when a woman gets married, she'll have to hand the keys to her husband. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I know that no harm was meant, but just my opinion. I think we need to be careful with jokes about garments. They are a sacred thing. Traveler and Palerider 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traveler Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Garments have a most interesting history - part of which I have lived through. I survived the difficulties in the military with what was considered non-issues undergarments that was subject to ridicule as well as punishment. Though it was too late for me I am grateful for special considerations for those that serve in the military. When I was a young pup - I competed as a cyclist. I discovered that in order to compete (especially in longer century rides) special clothing that allowed my body to breath was a critical necessity. I crafted a letter to "the brethren" requesting special garments that could be worn during training and completion. I received a letter in reply outlining several reasons why it would be better that I not wear my garments during training and competition rather than a special garment be issued - which "the brethren" believed would become an excuse to consider extreme considerations of the physical law of the covenant rather than the spirit of our sacred opportunity. carlimac, Blackmarch, NightSG and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackmarch Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) to the opdon't worry about it. Garments aren't discussed a lot at church, so I can see how people could come to wrong conclusions. And it is nice to know that along with the video the church released that they've come out an asked for feedback. Edited January 30, 2015 by Blackmarch carlimac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 This article is also from the Salt Lake Trib which always makes me suspect the reason or agenda behind some of the articles regarding the Church. So what do you make of this survey? https://lds.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_1OdWPwwFV9o1qM5&cid=garmentfeedback M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pam Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 So what do you make of this survey? https://lds.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_1OdWPwwFV9o1qM5&cid=garmentfeedback M. That would have to be answered by someone more knowledgeable of garments than I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarVortex Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Looks to me as if this survey appeared as a fairly neutral, routine thing... but then the Salt Lake Tribune, always worried about keeping its reader base energized and barking, described the survey as a bombshell event that could lead to garments appearing in Victoria's Secret catalogs. pam, The Folk Prophet, carlimac and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 If you want an alternate source for the link, go to the LDS online Store's temple clothes page: http://store.lds.org/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Category3_715839595_10557_3074457345616706230_-1_Y_image_0 From here, click on "garments" (you'll need to login). Scroll down and click on the ribbon on the right: Do you have any feedback about this page? That link is: https://lds.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_1OdWPwwFV9o1qM5&cid=garmentfeedback It's a match! pam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Folk Prophet Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 ...garments appearing in Victoria's Secret catalogs. Hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 My problem is that I'm inputting too much into my garments these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSG Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 When I was a young pup - I competed as a cyclist. I discovered that in order to compete (especially in longer century rides) special clothing that allowed my body to breath was a critical necessity. I crafted a letter to "the brethren" requesting special garments that could be worn during training and completion. I received a letter in reply outlining several reasons why it would be better that I not wear my garments during training and competition rather than a special garment be issued - which "the brethren" believed would become an excuse to consider extreme considerations of the physical law of the covenant rather than the spirit of our sacred opportunity. To some extent, I think padded garment bottoms designed like and made from the same fabric as good bike shorts would be a boon for missionaries in some areas, but I've also had the fun of trying to get through to a lot of people that all those technical fabrics in bike and other sports base layers don't work right unless they're *directly* against your skin. It's amusing how many women will shell out good money for bike shorts, then claim it doesn't work, when the problem is that they were wearing WalMart panties under the shorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarVortex Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 So how do missionaries in hot climates deal with an extra layer of clothing? Do missionaries in Florida or East Texas ride bikes and just resign themselves to being drenched in sweat all day? I can't imagine that would be very appealing to investigators. When I visited LDS Humanitarian Services last year I met an LDS couple that had spent 2 years in West Africa (Ghana, I think). She said they didn't have the problem of old clothing accumulating in their closets, because all clothing would mildew and rot away within nine months. I asked her what it was like wearing the garment in that climate, and she said "You get used to it." Behind her, and outside her field of vision, the husband gave her a "Lady, you are $#%^@ crazy!" look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maureen Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Looks to me as if this survey appeared as a fairly neutral, routine thing... but then the Salt Lake Tribune, always worried about keeping its reader base energized and barking, described the survey as a bombshell event that could lead to garments appearing in Victoria's Secret catalogs. Where did the SLTribune describe the survey like that? I've read the link posted in the OP and I'm not reading any such thing. M. PolarVortex 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarVortex Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Where did the SLTribune describe the survey like that? I've read the link posted in the OP and I'm not reading any such thing. M. I'm using vivid hyperbole to make my point, just as Jesus said that "If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters--yes, even their own life--such a person cannot be my disciple." It's not meant to be take literally. I would be quite astonished if any newspaper ever mentioned LDS garments and Victoria's Secret in the same article. :) The SLT has a long history of sensationalizing mundane LDS events and nonevents to goose its readers and fan the flames among anti-LDS simpletons, who often post really vile things in the comments section of these stories. Backroads and Vort 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Folk Prophet Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 So how do missionaries in hot climates deal with an extra layer of clothing? Do missionaries in Florida or East Texas ride bikes and just resign themselves to being drenched in sweat all day? I can't imagine that would be very appealing to investigators. Oh...missionaries in hot climates are allowed to wear tank tops and short shorts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarVortex Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Oh...missionaries in hot climates are allowed to wear tank tops and short shorts. I see. Perhaps that explains the two young men I saw at the beach last weekend with white tank tops and black name tags. Returning to topic, I noticed this wonderful article today about the garment survey: http://www.ibtimes.com/mormon-women-speak-out-new-lds-survey-temple-garments-1800906 It contains all kinds information that I don't need, such as the nursing mother who described the search for her breast under all those layers of clothing as an "Easter egg hunt." And of course, in this story about garment surveys, they managed to get in the obligatory mentions of polygamy and blacks in the priesthood. Edited January 31, 2015 by PolarVortex carlimac 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leah Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I see. Perhaps that explains the two young men I saw at the beach last weekend with white tank tops and black name tags. Returning to topic, I noticed this wonderful article today about the garment survey: http://www.ibtimes.com/mormon-women-speak-out-new-lds-survey-temple-garments-1800906 It contains all kinds information that I don't need, such as the nursing mother who described the search for her breast under all those layers of clothing as an "Easter egg hunt." And of course, in this story about garment surveys, they managed to get in the obligatory mentions of polygamy and blacks in the priesthood."All those layers"? Gimme a break. It's ONE thin layer more. I have co-workers who wear more layers than I do....bra, camisole, shirt, blazer/cardigan.......Why can't people who don't want o wear garments just be honest about it instead of coming up with lame excuses? Backroads 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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