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I watched it this week. The movie left me bawling.

I think the only reason there is so much confusion on this particular subject is because of what President Hinkley said during his Larry King interview so long ago. I found a transcript of the interview. Here is the dialog. CALLER: I was wondering about some of the guidelines in dietary restrictions Mormons live by, and how strictly members follow it. Because I was reading, once, the word of wisdom. My impression was that its major point was that one should respect all life, including animals and, as such, only consume them when absolutely necessary to sustain life, and to then eat them sparingly. But I've noticed that Mormon -- this is rarely followed by Mormons, and I'm wondering if this has anything to do with, as reported by "TIME" magazine. Larry King: OK, president? Gordon B. Hinckley: Oh, I don't know. You've read a part of the word of wisdom. The word of wisdom covers many things. It covers the excessive use of meat, as I see it. It covers, in a very particular way, the use of tobacco and alcohol. Larry King: By saying no? Gordon B. Hinckley: By saying, by proscribing those things. Larry King: No to caffeine? Gordon B. Hinckley: No to caffeine, coffee and tea.

Unfortunately it is that sensitive. Four people in my family have Celiacs Disease so we brought our own bread sealed up tight in a zip lock bag. It was blessed on the tray and brought to our family during the Sacrament.

Most alcohols have a really strong taste and 3/4th of a glass would not make you face numb unless you are super skinny and drank it on an empty stomach.

It is a hypothetical question with a real answer. Lots who leave do become agnostic or atheist (or somewhere in between the two). Lots do become just non-denominational Christians or Unitarians. I am now somewhat agnostic.

I don't like the direction that this thread has taken and I don't think it was good judgement on my part to post this thread in the first place. I want to apologize publicly to John and also say to Matthew that you don't have a right to say someone is or is not on the right path. In the church the that is the job of the stake pres or bishop. We are all here to progress the best that we can and we don't have any room to judge others. I requested this thread be deleted but if it is not I just want to apologize to John again.

I disagree. Just because his crisis of faith did not lead to the church's prescribed path does not mean he did not overcome his crisis of faith, and it does not mean he does not have faith because when it comes down to it we all walk by faith. It is very popular in the church to say "I know" but we don't actually "know". We believe.

Opps... the link did not work. Sorry. Here you go. Mormon Stories Podcast | Exploring and celebrating Mormon culture through stories I love him. I listen to him regularly.

I read a lot of forums and many forums are very familiar with John Dehlin and his podcasts on mormonstories.org/. He is pretty much never mentioned on here and I was just curious as to how many of you have even heard of him.

I am just curious as to why you are not a John Dehlin fan. He rocks!

I have acted on several such promptings... The most interesting prompting that I had was something that has gone unfulfilled. About seven years ago now my brother in law was sent to Afganistan. When a unit leaves they have a send-off/last good-bye for the family and the members of the unit. I remember being there feeling like I should join the military. The prompting to join the military did not go away for months. Over those few months I began to look into what it would take to join the military and found that with certain health problems I have I would never be accepted into the military. Over time the prompting faded away, but I often wondered how I would feel so prompted to do something and have it turn out to be not possible. I often relied on the story of Nephi and the idea that God will make a way for his children to fulfill his commands, but that was simply not the case with this prompting.

I don't doubt that you really love her. The one thing that I do know is that 18 is young. You are still figuring out who you are. All of my friends and family members who got married that young are divorced or have crappy marriages. I voted that you should go on your mission, but not because "all young men are supposed to." I think you should go because you learn a lot about yourself, the world and life by going.

The label "apostate" is such an interesting one. As someone else mentioned you can attend church or not attend church and be apostate. Apostasy really seems to stem from the motives behind your actions. Are you acting to worship and love God? If you attend church because you love God that is an action that moves you closer to God. I would dare say that if you attend church out of a sense of obligation you may actually be moving yourself away from God. I have met inactives that love God. I have met inactives that hate God. They do not really compare. Rebaptism? Nope. The doctrine would say rather repentance.

There is a certain process you have to go through to officially resign. I won't post the links but you can google "resigning from the mormon church" and there are several sites with instructions. The letter has to be specific and if you don't follow the process correctly it can take a long time. Mine took six weeks altogether and that is actually really fast.

The things that you are talking about are things that have been happening with language since the first language developed. Language is NOT a static thing. It is constantly changing and evolving.