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Dravin thanks for the reply I can understand your point of testing God, but it seems to me that it’s a testing to see if what is said is of God. As many others in the Bible I think Gideon is a sound example of one who tested that this was what the Lord wanted and is of God. Though to do so is not unwise, but like you say this doesn’t prove God is, its an affirmation that what is in question is of God. But to reassert the question what is it that God values that He would take the time and invest in proving men?

JudoMinja thanks for the reply Well in this sense of the word prove: To find out, learn, or know by experience; to have experience of, to experience, ‘go through’, suffer; also with compl., to find by experience (a person or thing) to be (something) as the Lord did with Abraham. Gen:22:12: And he said, Lay not thine hand upon the lad, neither do thou any thing unto him: for now I know that thou fearest God, seeing thou hast not withheld thy son, thine only son from me. And so does the Lord God do with all His chosen. Or in the sense of to make trial of, put to the test; to try the genuineness or qualities of; to try, test. arch. exc. in technical uses. Isn’t the genuineness or qualities of tested by fire? Mt:3:11: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: I believe God proves us to be His, by testing or proving out that which is of Him is in us. Of which He could easily see and or recognize. ( I used OED in reliance of the “King’s English” since I read KJV and nether change.)

Men don’t prove God (no matter how you look at the word prove) God proves men. God doesn’t have to prove men to be in error, it’s a given that men are in error. So what is it that God values that He would take the time and invest in proving men?

OneEternalSonata If this hasn’t been said already. According to commentary in the Stone Edition of the Tora Melchizedek king of Salem the priest of the most high God, Was Shem son of Noah, and Salem is now known as Jerusalem. I do believe Jacob was near fifty years old when Shem died.

Dravin Thanks for the reply The reason I ask is that if my memory serves, there is a famous Mormon amongst Mormons, early in the day of the Church of LDS that when others were with him they saw visions or something in that order, though I could be way off base on that.

Loudmouth_Mormon thanks for the reply like the avatar though.

prisonchaplain Thanks for the reply You’ll have this in a small town.

mysticmorini thanks for the reply Here is Wikipedia’s link on the subject, Merkabah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The “Jewish Encyclopedia” web site might have something on it also.

prisonchaplain thanks for the reply It would be the “Hebrew throne of God” (we are talking about the Lord our God here, not an imagined view of reality, but I can understand the questions you could get on this subject) but if I want to know what Wikipedia says about it I can google it. I am interested in the Mormon understanding thereof.

Hey, new here, so go easy on me. Wanted to ask; what is the Mormon view on the Merkabah?