sixpacktr

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  1. Served for almost 2 years on a High Council. One of the best days of my life was when I was released and assigned to the YSA Branch in our stake as the ExecSec to the BP. The men serving on the HC were great men and I enjoyed meeting with them, but I'm a doer and details, make it happen guy. And our SP had the HC speak only every other month, so technically, I could have been inactive 7 out of 8 weeks and no one would have known, as long as I showed up to my speaking assignments. Some folks like serving on the HC. My dad did for years and years. It just wasn't my cup of herbal tea....
  2. 4 movies over the last two days: Major League. 'just a bit outside' The King's Speech. Great, great movie. Very moving. Ichi. Japanese samurai movie Fine, Totally Fine. Japanese movie. Extremely hilarious. Watched Patton again for like the 10th time the other day. And am watching 'Anatomy of a Murder' starring Jimmy Stewart while I work out, so it will take me a couple of days to finish. Anything with Jimmy Stewart in it I will watch.
  3. I too remember spending all day at church. My father was my Bishop when I was a teen and he would spend from 6ish in the morning until 8 or so at night at church on Sundays. I remember being at PH by 8, then SS, then going home (usually we spent time at a friends home, or they at ours, then back to church for a 1.5 hour Sacrament meeting. I also remember going to Primary on Thursday nights for several hours, and MIA was at least 2 hours (not that I remember much, I played basketball more than I did anything else!). The 3 hour block was implemented to reduce the burden of time upon church members so that they'd spend more time with their families teaching the gospel. It wasn't meant as a 'break' per se, but rather put the burden back more on the parents to raise up righteous children. But how many of us really do (did) that? I would bet that most filled their time with worldly pursuits rather than spiritual, family oriented ones. I like the 3 hour block, and when I was serving in some leadership positions regularly spent 8 hours or so on Sunday in meetings, etc. And those days NEVER felt like the 8 hours of drudgery that work felt like. I was on the Lord's time, not mine. But if they announced on Saturday or Sunday that the Saints haven't used the reduced time as they had hoped and that we're going back to the old blocks of meetings, that too would be fine with me.
  4. What does Sarah Palin have to do with the fact that you got caught up in trotting out trite little phrases? Where did that come from?
  5. If I remember right, Christ didn't ask the Father why he must drink of this cup. He asked if there was no other way to do it, but if not, he'd submit. That's isn't murmuring. That is hoping there is another way of fulfilling his mission. Big difference. Christ didn't murmer.
  6. I applaud this mother for being a mother and hopefully shaming her son with a lesson he won't ever forget. There it too little of this nowadays and people think that actions don't have consequences. Several lives ago when we lived in Kentucky I took my daughters for some 'serve yourself' ice cream cones. They filled up, I paid, and they began to eat. On the way out, they took some more, and I happened to see them. I became very upset, asked them what they thought they were doing, and marched them up to the cashier. They objected the entire time, saying that everyone did it and it was no big deal. The cashier said that it was okay, no big deal, but I told her it was, that they stole the ice cream, and that if they'd have asked first then it is one thing, but to simply take it is stealing, and I then paid for the extra ice cream. My daughters both were upset, and wouldn't eat the ice cream afterwards. They still remember that incident and I believe it helped them understand something about taking something that isn't yours.
  7. HoI to Bishops tells you very plainly that unless a young woman (or young man, for that matter) is either going to be married or go on a mission then they should wait until their 25th Birthday to make sure that there is some spiritual maturity. And even then the Bishop may not give them a recommend if he feels they are not ready for the covenants that they will make. Bishops have a lot of leeway, but for the most part this is pretty strict policy, because the SP then has to do the interview as well and may ixnay the whole thing.
  8. The point of Job is that bad things happen to good people. Job never questioned that he was a wicked person, even though his own wife told him to 'curse God and die', or his friends continually questioned his righteousness. Job never lost sight of the fact that he had done everything that God told him to do. What Job had to learn, apparently, was that even though he was righteous he needed to learn sorrow and endurance. I don't think he was murmuring, per se, but simply confused (much as we are when we do right and yet somehow bad things happen or continue to happen). In the end the Lord enlightens him and tells him, basically, I am God and I know the beginning from the end, and all things work for your good...
  9. When I lived in Japan I took my 5 year old daughter to a concert of Whitney Houston's. What a set of pipes! She was so talented and had such a wonderful voice. Unfortunately, she married Bobbie Brown and it went downhill from there, so much so that she became a regular feature on 'The Soup' because she had gotten so weird and hostile. The world glorifies drug use, treating it as a right of passage that everyone needs to do in order to fully understand the human experience. But the music world is littered with unbelievable talent that succumbed to drugs and self-destructed. Whitney is just the latest in a long line...
  10. When you gotta explain it, it means you probably shouldn't have ventured into 'humor' in the first place....
  11. Vort is right on in this. We have nearly no information, yet most are willing to say that the Bishop was wrong here. If he was trying to cover something up and didn't follow the guidelines, then there will be consequences. But how often have we heard of someone cry 'foul' and then, after a short investigation, find out that there was no foul but that the person either made it up or was an active participant? The whole thing stinks to me because the girl didn't go to her folks first, but did only AFTER being told something she didn't want to hear. It almost sounds like a set up. And pls don't think that because it was a young lady that somehow she is immune from lying or making up 'truth'. She goes in, says one thing to her Bishop, who may want to investigate a tad before the young man's name is dragged thru the mud and before he takes any actions, and then she goes home to tell her folks that she was assaulted. Why is she hesitant in the first instance but gets some counsel from her Bishop and THEN tells her folks? I don't know, and that is the point. I don't know what happened. But to assume that the Bishop is the culprit here is wrong. But sadly, par for the course for many on this board....
  12. 1. Yes, I do believe that. Either thru direct revelation or because the person called was the best available at that time. I don't believe in callings by desperation. I believe that God is in the details and puts us where we're needed when we are.2. Yes, and if YOU'D read my reply to him, I told him that he has a duty to share his feelings/concerns with his Bishop so that he is aware of it. I never said that Bishops are psychic. Lord knows I'm not. But I also know that agonizing over who to put where, after talking with counselors and praying about it, and coming to a decision, leads me to know that God does work thru His Bishops. And Bishops need information in order to do their callings (not jobs, not volunteer positions, but CALLINGS) right, so that they can pray and ponder over these things with as much info as possible. And sometimes the Bishop won't release someone when they come and say that they want to be released or that it is too hard. Because they know that that person needs that calling at that time. Learn to trust your Bishop or any other line leader. If you can't, then maybe you should rethink the question in the TR interview asking if you support your local leaders?
  13. I guess that is where you and I will always disagree. I am not a volunteer. I made sacred covenants when I was baptized, when I rec'd the PH, when I was endowed in the temple, to turn my life over to building up the kingdom and standing as a witness at all times. I don't consider myself a volunteer. That is too easy. That implies that whenever I get tired of it I can just say 'I'm done'. Again, that is not in the program. My covenants prohibit me from just 'quitting' a calling because I don't think that the call was inspired, or that I'm tired of doing it, etc. Either you believe the call is from God or you don't. It is that simple. If you don't, then church is nothing more than 3 hours of people being hypocrites stating we believe in modern revelation, which includes the callings given to people. But if you do believe the calling is from God, then to fight it and say that God 'doesn't understand how hard it is' is not a very safe area to be in. I choose to support my leaders. I choose to accept that the positions I have been called to were because that was where the Lord wanted me to be at the time. And you know why I believe that? Because I asked Him, and He told me that was where I needed to be and what I needed to be doing at the time. And when those times happened that I didn't have that feeling I supported my Bishop because he has the keys to that revelation for the ward and that he put me there for whatever reason he needed. The time is short, and you are either committed to living the gospel completely or you aren't. I choose the former...
  14. You don't release yourself from a calling. Not in the program. Now, you have every right (and duty, BTW) to go and speak to your Bishop and lay out your concerns. But don't just 'quit' as a couple of people have advised here. It will do nothing for you except make you feel guilty. And who knows but that this is exactly what the Lord wants you to learn at this time? The Lord puts us in the positions He does in order to help us grow and become more like Him. Now, I don't pretend to know what you are going thru with your illness, but I do know that your Bishop will welcome talking to you about it and helping you thru this time in your life. And if you are released, then you can do so with a clear conscience. Good luck.
  15. And to me, it seems that you are easily offended. Slamjet's sentiment is exactly right. Why is it that we always have to see how close to the edge we can get without 'breaking' a commandment or offending God? When we participate in that most sacred of ordinances (and think of it, the Deacons and Priests, by officiating in this ordinance, are allowing an ENTIRE CONGREGATION to be completely clean, just as on their baptismal day! What a beautiful bit of doctrine!), why would we want anything WE want to interfere with doing our duty? When passing or blessing or preparing the sacrament, you are standing in Christ's place. You are the agent thru which a congregation receives remission of their sins. Dress accordingly. Think how you will answer to your Heavenly Father when you account for your life. If you feel that this is appropriate, then by all means go for it (don't know if your Bishop will allow it, but nevertheless). But remember, remember that one day you will be accountable for your actions. I read in another post that someone's son went inactive because he had a mohawk and the other priest was looking at porn. That definitely happens. Bishop's aren't perfect nor are they omniscient. If the other boy didn't confess, the Bishop's hands are tied. Again, he will have to answer for it, not the Bishop. Or, perhaps, the Bishop was aware and was working thru things with the other boy. Probably wouldn't know anything about that, so to assume the Bishop just let it slide while punishing the boy with the mohawk is judgemental at best. Best bet? Just take care of your own issues, and make sure you are right before the Lord and don't worry what others are doing. Believe me: you'll make the Bishop's life SO much easier...