echosparks

I was told by the local missionaries back in May that the mission pres. who had supposedly talked to the first pres. over the phone in response to the letter I wrote the first pres. about me possibly being able to get baptized, had said no. So if I never end up getting baptized before I die, where does that leave me when I die? Would I still have to have been married here on earth if I COULD even get to the first level of heaven?

Since I can't get baptized (see old posts) and obviously can't date even if I was in the church, I basically have to wait till after I die to have a forever family and to get the blessings someone is supposed to get in church? My "family" here on earth is way too screwed up. I've heard that me being trans. may have been a blessing for me from Him. Why/how could it be a blessing if it directly makes me ineligible to join His church? I did a priesthood blessing about 3 weeks ago since my hearing is getting worse. I will have new hearing aids for both of my ears by Thanksgiving and I'm only in my 20s. I had my first aid for one ear for the last 12 months and it stopped working 6 months ago. Anyways the YSA parent who did it already knows I'm trans. and about my hearing issues. After he started it and said my current name (which was legally changed a few years ago) he asked me for my birth name. And I gave it to him.He said he was prompted for it but I'm not so sure. I think it may have been that he thought he would need my birth name to give a correct blessing to me? But there were things said in it that I haven't told anyone at church about before.

Keep in mind I'm still waiting for a written response from the first presidency on the letter I sent out a week ago. I doubt I will get a response but I will post what it says if/when I get one.

What's the order in which you go when you have to ask the first Pres. if someone can get baptized? I never met or talked with the stake Pres. I never met or talked with the mission Pres. I asked the missionaries and they said it was a phone call maybe this past wed. with the first Pres. saying what I posted a couple of days ago. Wouldn't the mission Pres. have to interview me, and if finding me otherwise worthy, then WRITE to the first Pres. about me? and then would/ was first Pres. supposed to WRITE back to the mission Pres. about all of this? For all I know, for the mission Pres. talking on the phone about this and never meeting me, some things may have been said that aren't true. If it makes anyone feel any better (and it won't) the same exact feeling I get when being told the BoM is true, that Joseph Smith was a prophet, etc. is the same feeling I get when asking Heavenly Father if I should be living as a boy. When I ask Him if I should go back to living as a girl, I get nothing.

been going for 2 months now. not allowed to be baptized so I will never be a member=[

Bad news:(This is what my missionaries said- I can get baptized but I'd have to stop living as a man, stop taking hormones, and stop attending priesthood (my bishop told me I could go where I feel comfortable. And yes i know i could never hold the priesthood). That's what the mission Pres. and first presidency said. I wrote a letter to first presidency last week asking if I could get baptized. I sent an extra envelope with a stamp on it and my address on it so hopefully I will still get a written response back in the mail. Like I told my Bishop, I'd rather be dead than go back to living as a girl. I thought getting baptized was not gender specific?? Apparently not I think it'd be better if I just do what I was planning on doing all along-skip church and just learn all of this on my own. At least I wouldn't have to be around others who wouldn't like me for me staying who I know I am.

Yes the BoM is true and Joseph Smith was a prophet. I was just asking since family is important in the church. I have no family in or out of the church. No friends in the church but 2 outside of it. Otherwise it's just me on my own learning all of this. I've been done with the missionary lessons for a couple weeks now.

I'm guessing even if i can end up getting baptized that dating within the church would never happen for me? And that's if I'd find someone.... (i am pre-op).

thanks. it works now=] why wasn't it working before?

I tried and can't change mine. I put in the URL for the picture I wanted and it said member profile diabled=[ I can't find a place to pick out an avitar either.

No offense but if I end up not being able to get baptized which means no temple recommend or marriage(i still like guys) then how could I go to YSA? I thought the whole point of YSA is so you can find someone to marry.... And yes depending on the situation sometimes women rule and men drool;) guys aren't the best at everything like some think they are.

I tried to post this and I think I accidentally deleted it. My bishop said he'd have to talk to the mission president but as of right now I can't get baptized. If the mission president would say I can or can't (either way actually) would it then be pointless to attend the YSA that is around here and it's activities? No matter the outcome I know I will be able to go to institute. For whatever reason the missionaries I have been seeing for the past 2 weeks said I had to go to RS yesterday. I sat there crying to myself the entire time knowing that I shouldn't have been there. I don't know who told them I had to go. Bishop said that I could go where I feel most comfortable at.

It is all NOs to question #4. I've never been in a relationship or on a date before.

I'm 100% new to all of this and have never practiced any religion & never been to church. I've been reading up on the teachings of LDS which I think I agree with-I don't know how I could not with not ever being taught about other (any) religions. But in what I've read so far does the church not accept transgendered people or allow them to marry in the temple? I've also read that they can't get a temple recommend or be baptized? I'm in my 20s. I was born a female, haven't had any surgeries but have been on testosterone and lived full-time as a male for a little over 4 years now. Unless I told someone that I was still biologically a girl they wouldn't know. I liked boys growing up and still do. I was wondering how the church would see this? Since I am still female by what my birth certificate says by law I could still get married to a male. Would the church see it that way too or as a homosexual relationship? Also would I be put in priesthood or relief society? I don't want to join just to get kicked out. Also how do tithing work?