Crouching Chopsticks

Thanks for the input Connie. C.S Lewis is always worth a read as is Augustine and Aurelius. Tom Morris , new on me so I'll check him out. Which particular phrases / ideas from any of these people would you say has had an impact on you personally if you don't mind me asking ?

Thanks guys, just managed to get around to the book earlier tonight. It's kinda straight to the point sort of stuff, which suits me fine.

Anybody here a student/reader of Philosophy, Confucius / Diogenes etc ? If so what are some of your favorites ?

Finished the Book of Mormon a couple of weeks ago and I've been gearing myself up to crack on with D/C. I was wondering if there were good resources to compliment the reading of D/C and what are the favorite parts for you personally, you know bits that have helped you immensely or shone light on an old problem ? I'm going to make a start on it tonight once I've finished tying up the loose ends of the day. Hope everyone is doing good.

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy ( British spy film based in the 1970's with Gary Oldman ) In my top 5 of films.

I was speaking to the two Missionaries who found me about this very topic and I said to them that, I found it strange that other churches in my area didn't have such a thing, which annoyed me when I thought about it. How else is someone suppose to hear the word of God if the Preachers and everyone else ( in my area ) have this ''Faith is all you need '' attitude.. To tell you the truth, I hadn't even thought about Mormonism when I was approached by two Missionaries so out of politeness and as it was on the subject of God, I agreed for them to come visit me. I found them to be very sincere ( which doesn't prove anything ) but it let me know that the two young adults who were talking to me were undertaking a duty they felt they had a calling to take.They were very knowledgeable and I admit I played nice as they were younger than me , so I didn't want to give them a hard time. For me, I think Missionaries excel in bringing in the flock that are out on the fringes of the God topic.They clear a way for people like me to find a route into the subject and sample/study it in the correct environment without judgement.They answered all my questions and were very patient with me. I got the feeling I was being played, but that was probably me picking up their Missionary training techniques that are probably designed to keep people onside, this doesn't bother me as I guess we all partake in a little bit of that in our daily lives, so it's not a negative. I think the Missionaries are a strong point for the LDS and it's just as well God made that path available as I don't think he'd trust us in the dark.In my humble, made from clay opinion.

Without presuming a lot of things and purely going by what you've said and my experience with the same situation I'd say there is something deep rooted in her that is leaving her feel possibly undervalued or overlooked in the workplace.One of the tricks I used was to listen very carefully to the criticism that the negative person would throw at someone and see if those very criticisms can be turned around on themselves and 8/10 times they could. Which always left me thinking that they were very unhappy with themselves, it's usually a confidence issue. I know how you feel though, with your own situation on your shoulders it is hard to carry other peoples baggage when at work. That is why I decided to give myself a make over of sorts and become uber professional in the workplace. As I simply didn't have the patience or strength to babysit full grown adults and their 1st world problems. I don't know the full story in your situation so I can't rule out a serious issue beneath the surface with your colleague but it may be best to draw a line and keep to it. The expression '' Give an inch take a yard '' comes to mind with the women you are describing, might be time to draw up the bridge for a little while and let her have a little talk with herself... None of this means you have to become short or ill-tempered with her, just keep her at arms length as to not let her vibes infringe on your mood. Good luck with it, sometimes people aren't happy unless they're moaning.. The guy I used to work with would complain if he hit the jackpot in a lottery ( Seriously ). I just learned to laugh it off.

Thanks Pam , your avatar s giving me a serious case of the munches.

If your Bishop is experienced then they'll have dealt with this issue before and not just in teenagers. If your habit of using Pornography is so dominating that you cannot control it on your own then you're going to need someone to keep you off of that path by being a good listener and provide you with plenty of encouragement. I'm lucky in a lot of ways as I've never really understood pornography. I can't even stomach the odd mating ritual on National Geographic nevermind anything on a porn website.Plus when you look into the Biographies of the people ( especially the women ) there is always a broken heart to go along with a broken home a lot of the time which always left me with the impression these women were more or less being misled down a destructive path. Pornography is the #1 most searched item on the Internet and has been for some time so you aren't alone in this however hats off to you for being mature and level headed enough and honest with yourself with this, as it would be all too easy just to brush it under the rug and pretend it's not there. I don't believe your Bishop will judge you or put you in any sort of situation where you may encounter the disappointment or disapproval of your parents. Just be honest, Say that your curiosity got the better of you and before you know it , it became a regular part of your life and you want out of the downward spiral. So long as you remember that Pornography is nothing but cheap thrills and that there is more to life you'll learn to keep that sort of phony fulfillment out of your mind and make plenty of space for other things you could be doing with your time. I know all habits are hard to break but you are doing the right thing and as they say, the first step is always the most difficult. You'll look back on this and wonder why you were stressing so much. Everyone gets caught in a snare from time to time and we ( humans ) don't like to admit our mistakes/weaknesses. Good luck with it and I'm sure you'll be fine. Bless.

30 year old guy here dropping in to say hi, For the past little while I've been meeting with Missionaries and discussing my beliefs / worldview and to my surprise, It turns out my own personal thoughts and opinions on life are very Mormon, even my thoughts on the afterlife. For the longest time I have been looking for a spiritual home as I didn't grow up in a religious home however I always felt / suspected there was a god. I have just recently finished the Book Of Mormon and was very impressed yet I'm taking a couple of weeks to let it digest before I move onto the D/C.I have attended Church a few times and found everyone to be very welcoming and friendly so thus far everything has been straightforward. I have looked at what some ExMormons have had to say along with everyone else who seemingly has a problem with the Church and none of it seems to have me worried in the slightest.Despite being wet behind the ears in terms of my knowledge of Mormonism, most of the criticisms I've seen thus far are ad hominem or word games so this hasn't caused any concern.Raised eyebrows yes, but not concern. Anyways, that is why I'm here. I'm looking forward to reading more about the Latter Day Saints ( which is a cool name by the way ) so that I can come to understand the Church better and be baptized. Also, I'm not one for internet forums as I'm not really into the whole Internet culture,( I don't even have a facebook ) but I'll be around here for a while so I'll happily talk to anyone but you shouldn't get any trouble from me as I've no times for trolls and whatever else. Ps, Usernames is the name of my local Chinese Take Away before anyone asks lol. Hope everyone is doing good and talk later.